It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. And his constant er, er, erms.. all the time were extremely irritating. View our media pack. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. 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They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. A new bike is coming very soon! This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. Quite brilliant and gutsy from Tom. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. CK:Its pretty bleak. I've also been known to drag washing machines behind the bike and throw them down embankments, along with piles of grass clippings, black bags of household rubbish and several hubcaps. There is a rumour that the plane ticket has already been bought for Mark to leave the Tour, but I think the temptation is there for him to go to the Champs-lyses because he believes in his mind that he has worked out how to unpick Marcel Kittel, who is his main threat. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? London live show preview! And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. What is his cycling background ? Twaddle. . So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. Well, Kirby says, when its all out action on the road its very easy the problem comes on longtransition stages. You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more. ). Went for a bike ride earlier today. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. There's also his lack of knowledge. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. Carlton Kirby: Mark Cavendish the greatest sprinter of all - Eurosport Theres so much stuff going on because in front of us for starters, we have live timing, results sheets, stage profiles, live pictures, alternative live pictures and a sub-monitor with the schedule. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! Cavendish swept to his second win at the Tour of Turkey with another . Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. It is crazy. There is absolutely no deficit of distractions for a commentator. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. The atmosphere fills up with buzz from moment to moment that enthusiasm pushes the words out of the heart. Log in or register to join the conversation. Owned by Warner Bros. Baseless. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. Hence, talking on something is difficult without matter. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. But try explaining that to Cycling Weekly and their letters column.. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," Carlton Kirby tells Betway in a recent interview, one of the principal commentators for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has served in the sport since 1996. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. The Tour de Suisse is traditionally one of the last big races before the Tour de France. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. or maybe you,re a relative ?? He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. As you say, he doesn't shout unnecessarily either. The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. Unlike other sports, the practicalities of cycling dont change, and doing this remotely is not at all a good idea, but the situation makes all helpless. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. This latest incident proves exactly that. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. Ive done so much and been so many places that I mostly have all of them embedded in my head. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. Q&A: Eurosport's Carlton Kirby on announcing the Tour de France from You get a sense of the weather a bright morning, going up this morning in a hail storm, and the hailstones are this big. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. The breaks going to go up the road, theyre going to be allowed anything up to 15 minutes of an advantage and everyone else is just having a chat including us., All the other commentators from all the other nations and all their information are in the same room, so you often get people saying: Have you heard this?, with loads of things to share. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. because there wuld be an uprising in the country. The blokes an insult to all cyclists. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. But I do allow people to believe Im always on-site. Talk about what you know. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. The best thing you can do is relax, in my opinion, Kirby explains about going live on air. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. Without any editing, moderation, or credibility, it is all out in the name of fate. It is all kinds of stuff. He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. I talk about the same stuff, except Im making it up. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). I speak no language other than English. According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. and clearly was totally clueless. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. All rights reserved. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. From wrestling with sound walls, coping with dropped audio, working with Sean Kelly and deciphering the Kirby CODEC, we caught up with Kirby midway through the raceto getan insight into life on Tour as a commentator. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast. Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. Ive gotten drunk on the Galibier and been evacuated off the Galibier. Plus the the week's top tech news, in: Flying Tom Pidcock wins Strade Bianche, in: Cyclists call on council to reconsider unsafe diversion, in: Call for Scottish safety portal that would "deliver justice", in: Campaigners: Remove pedestrian vs cyclist conflict, in: Highway Code changes haven't helped cyclists, Near Miss of the Day 853: Driver of lorry urging cyclists to Please take extra care near this vehicle fined for close pass (includes swearing), Continental unveils the "strongest" and "fastest" ever Grand Prix 5000 tyre models, Brompton boss frustrated to be fighting "war of attrition" against rip-off rivals, Remove conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, urge campaigners in wake of manslaughter case, Have bike tech wars turned cycling into Formula 1? In conversation with Carlton Kirby - Cyclist Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. Me too. Carlton kirby - has to go !! | Cyclingnews Forum He believes. Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. Hosted by Duncan Steer. This is the video I showed Trinity School in Lewisham this morning. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. After my tweet he at least toned that down. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. De Gendt, ganador de la primera etapa de la Volta 2019. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In - Radio Days Events On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. Agreed. Ive fallen off the Galibier. My Ultimate Commuter, rebuilding her at the moment, everything external. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. But it is also true that there isnt a dearth of genuine fans of Kirby who really appreciate his vast knowledge on the field. Ive been up the Galibier. A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. They support his knowledge and enthusiasm behind the mic, even after so many years. Baseless. "Oh! Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. Set the scene for us. He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. It is a thrilling climax and its my job to convey that to the public. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet".
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